Best 3pt Shooters in the OVAC (current players)

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  • BobcatQB
    All Ohio Valley
    • Sep 2013
    • 874

    #46
    Originally posted by Rider87 View Post
    As far as the current top 3pt shooters in the valley I'll put Davis from Big red at the top. His teammate Wiggins is another top shooter. Sancomb from WCC is really good. Vincent from Bport. Booth from Ferry is really good, Little from Ferry has a good shot as well. Melh from UL is up there.
    Davis - 11/31 (35%)
    Wiggins - 12/38 (32%)
    Vincent - 20/47 (43%)
    Mehl - 10/30 (30%)

    Schott - 9/28 (32%)

    according to MaxPreps.

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    • ItsOFFWhite
      Cheerleader
      • Dec 2023
      • 52

      #47
      Originally posted by BobcatQB View Post

      Davis - 11/31 (35%)
      Wiggins - 12/38 (32%)
      Vincent - 20/47 (43%)
      Mehl - 10/30 (30%)

      Schott - 9/28 (32%)

      according to MaxPreps.
      Checks out back to what we’re saying last year still stands true.

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      • goredskins
        JV Squad
        • May 2016
        • 21

        #48
        Originally posted by BobcatQB View Post

        Davis - 11/31 (35%)
        Wiggins - 12/38 (32%)
        Vincent - 20/47 (43%)
        Mehl - 10/30 (30%)

        Schott - 9/28 (32%)

        according to MaxPreps.

        What are these kids currently shooting? I looked at their maxpreps page because the schott kid for Caldwell has had some big games recently. It says he’s played 9 games and is 29/57 from three for 51%. Pretty good hot streak it looks like.

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        • goredskins
          JV Squad
          • May 2016
          • 21

          #49
          Originally posted by 71Malkinmania
          Just a 2025 reminder when comparing kids that ball isn’t ball and never will be.
          I think i know what you mean by this but would you break it down? I’m just looking at how well kids are shooting it. I don’t think hs has advanced analytics for shooting and I also know many of these kids have to create their own shots which effects results.

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          • goredskins
            JV Squad
            • May 2016
            • 21

            #50
            Originally posted by 71Malkinmania

            It’s simple… my thought to this is people comparing kids at different levels of HS ball and whether or not people agree it’s not equal …. Example

            A kid playing D1-3 sized schools nightly shooting 40%
            from 3 isn’t the same as a kid playing in 5-6-7 doing the same thing. It’s just not. The talent on floor night in and night out is vastly superior at higher levels of ball from help D to amount of elite defenders teams have etc etc.

            While it doesn’t take anything away from anyone playing my message is it’s just not simply the same. Because at the end of the day just for me as a parent I want my kids doing things at a higher competition level.

            I only give my opinion, im not talking down to anyone. There’s some good hoopers at all levels in our valley but jumping 2 steps up in competition would definitely change some stats. Just reality.
            i assumed that was what you’re getting at and for the most part i do agree. Devil’s advocate could say playing at a bigger school means in theory you have better teammates which should give you more space to shoot. A lot of these small schools are one of two man bands with kids you don’t have to guard which leads to junk defenses. I’d say in the valley the difference small to big school isn’t as wide a gap as in larger populated areas but obviously there are still big talent gaps. I’d say the biggest difference isn’t shooting, you either can or you can’t, but the rest of the game. playing at a bigger school requires you be a more complete player

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            • 71Malkinmania
              Valued Contributor
              • Nov 2017
              • 1971

              #51
              Originally posted by goredskins View Post

              i assumed that was what you’re getting at and for the most part i do agree. Devil’s advocate could say playing at a bigger school means in theory you have better teammates which should give you more space to shoot. A lot of these small schools are one of two man bands with kids you don’t have to guard which leads to junk defenses. I’d say in the valley the difference small to big school isn’t as wide a gap as in larger populated areas but obviously there are still big talent gaps. I’d say the biggest difference isn’t shooting, you either can or you can’t, but the rest of the game. playing at a bigger school requires you be a more complete player
              That’s fair which is why it’s just an opinion.

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              • BobcatQB
                All Ohio Valley
                • Sep 2013
                • 874

                #52
                Originally posted by goredskins View Post


                What are these kids currently shooting? I looked at their maxpreps page because the schott kid for Caldwell has had some big games recently. It says he’s played 9 games and is 29/57 from three for 51%. Pretty good hot streak it looks like.
                I'd say 20/29 is a pretty good hot streak!

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                • BobcatQB
                  All Ohio Valley
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 874

                  #53
                  Updated Cambridge stats after last night:

                  Garrett Carpenter

                  Season (48/96, 50%)
                  - 1st in season % in CHS history
                  - tied for 8th in 3's made in season in CHS history

                  Career (86/196, 43.8%)
                  - 1st in career % in CHS history
                  - 5th in 3's made in career in CHS history


                  Jesiah Barnett

                  Season (25/73, 34.2%)

                  Career (129/365, 35.3%)
                  - 3rd in 3's made in career in CHS history
                  - 10th in career% in CHS history


                  Mason Gregg

                  Season (24/60, 40%)
                  - 6th in season % in CHS history

                  Career (51/130, 39.2%)
                  -4th in career % in CHS history
                  Last edited by BobcatQB; 01-14-2025, 01:27 PM.

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                  • BobcatQB
                    All Ohio Valley
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 874

                    #54
                    Originally posted by the oracle

                    What are the numbers up to after last night? Watched most of the first half and it was bombs away almost every trip down the court. I didn't think fireworks displays were allowed inside of enclosed spaces? Scary to think what Ford, Christman and those guys might've had if given carte blanche to put up 3s every trip down.

                    Anyways, a solid 41-point drubbing by your cats. Battista was over there with arms folded per usual. He'd collected his plaque beforehand so I guess that's all that really matters.
                    Yes it was crazy..but they can shoot it! I'll update it next week after Tuesday's game. MF tomorrow, Zville Sat and Barnesville Tues.

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                    • BobcatQB
                      All Ohio Valley
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 874

                      #55
                      Updated Cambridge stats:

                      Garrett Carpenter

                      Season (58/124, 46.7%)
                      Career (96/224, 42.8%)


                      Jesiah Barnett

                      Season (37/106, 34.9%)
                      Career (141/398, 35.4%)


                      Mason Gregg

                      Season (34/83, 40.9%)
                      Career (61/153, 39.8%)


                      Team

                      Season (156/405, 38.5%)

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                      • BobcatQB
                        All Ohio Valley
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 874

                        #56
                        Originally posted by 71Malkinmania

                        You guys are one of a handful of teams who definitely should keep shooting them.

                        Some of these Hudl stats are hilarious, teams shooting 21-27% from 3 for entire games (15-20 attempts) while nobody saying a word.

                        Whatever happened to the 10-12 foot shot???


                        The game has definitely changed. Never thought I'd see a team shoot more 3's than 2's. It's happened several times in the last few years with teams that I've covered and Cambridge fits that profile this year.

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                        • ItsOFFWhite
                          Cheerleader
                          • Dec 2023
                          • 52

                          #57
                          Originally posted by 71Malkinmania View Post

                          That’s fair which is why it’s just an opinion.
                          When you were talking about 3pt shooting specifically, your opinion is that a wide open three by player A is more impressive than a contested 3 by player B based solely on what division you play in? Everything else aside, shooting is the one thing that doesn’t change if you can shoot you can shoot no matter what level it is. For example if a guy is in a bigger school with more talent through the roster, than he will inherently get more open looks than a guy in smaller divisions. As Goredskins stated there isn’t really a gap esp here in the valley based on your divisions esp when you see these guys all through the summer play against each other you would be surprised who gets cooking. That’s just common sense. The same reason you see smaller division players play on top AAU circuit ie EYBL. You have to expand your mind to today’s game, I don’t know if it’s your stuck in the past with how ball used to be or what. Quinn Kwasniak played for Cornerstone Christian would you say he’s not a true talent based off of the size of the division? I’m not saying your right or wrong because it is just an opinion and everyone has one but I would really push for you to study more of todays game not only locally but a wide net too see that your division is not a reflection of your potential. And to the other guys about 10-12ft jumpers, there is only about 4 guys that consistently take and make them shots locally. It’s because it’s an elite level shot. A couple of them actually love getting their defender to that spot to break them down and hit. Most guys/coaches think it’s inefficient and feel like if I’m within the 3 I should drive and if I’m deep enough I might as well shoot the 3. Have a good one
                          Last edited by ItsOFFWhite; 01-25-2025, 08:51 PM.

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                          • Rack162
                            Season Ticket Holder
                            • Sep 2022
                            • 374

                            #58
                            Originally posted by ItsOFFWhite View Post

                            Quinn Kwasniak played for Cornerstone Christian would you say he’s not a true talent based off of the size of the division?
                            Cornerstones 6'2 Kwasniak has multiple D1 offers, and his team plays a loaded schedule for a D7. Cleveland Central Catholic, Benedictine, Gilmour, Maple Hts, Euclid, Kirtland, Mentor, Warrensville Hts, Lutheran East etc.

                            If Kwasniak played for Bridgeport, he'd average 72 points a game.

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                            • 71Malkinmania
                              Valued Contributor
                              • Nov 2017
                              • 1971

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Rack162 View Post

                              Cornerstones 6'2 Kwasniak has multiple D1 offers, and his team plays a loaded schedule for a D7. Cleveland Central Catholic, Benedictine, Gilmour, Maple Hts, Euclid, Kirtland, Mentor, Warrensville Hts, Lutheran East etc.

                              If Kwasniak played for Bridgeport, he'd average 72 points a game.
                              Careful Rack, you may get accused of talking bad about kids. Which is about the furthest thing I’ve seen on here. Reality is tough for some not all.

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                              • ItsOFFWhite
                                Cheerleader
                                • Dec 2023
                                • 52

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Rack162 View Post

                                Cornerstones 6'2 Kwasniak has multiple D1 offers, and his team plays a loaded schedule for a D7. Cleveland Central Catholic, Benedictine, Gilmour, Maple Hts, Euclid, Kirtland, Mentor, Warrensville Hts, Lutheran East etc.

                                If Kwasniak played for Bridgeport, he'd average 72 points a game.
                                Absolutely love Quinn that’s why I said that because according to the logic here you can’t play at higher levels if you’re in a smaller division. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. I’m all for a good debate so time will tell forsure!! Good take rack and malkinmania I see you ruffled feathers again…. my boy is a message board warrior chs2019 lmao.. additionally cornerstone Christian plays a miles better schedule than D3 Steubenville. But that’s another topic
                                Last edited by ItsOFFWhite; 01-27-2025, 03:32 PM.

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