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  • icredskins
    Valued Contributor
    • Sep 2008
    • 1291

    Pupil Activity Permits

    This link was posted on another site.



    It's a search engine for Ohio Educators, showing any licenses/permits that they possess and any licenses/permits that they don't possess. One permit in particular is the 3 Year Pupil Activity Permit. Here is an part of a letter dated September 16, 2011 from the OHSAA Commissioner, Dan Ross:

    At its May 12, 2011, meeting, the OHSAA Board of Directors approved new General Sports Regulation 3, Penalties for Failure to Acquire the Pupil Activity/Coaching Permit. What the new regulation says is that: 1.) Coaches who do not possess the PAP will not be permitted to coach at any level at an OHSAA member school; 2.) High schools will submit on the OHSAA Tournament Entry Form the name of each board-approved coach along with the PAP number, and 3.) Any high school coach who does not possess the PAP at the first level of the tournament will not be permitted to coach at any level of the tournament until such time that the PAP is obtained and verification of such is provided to the OHSAA. The new regulation also provides authority for our office to perform random audits throughout the year to ensure coaches have the proper credentials. Additionally, there is authority for the OHSAA to fine schools that have not complied with the bylaw $250 per coach.

    Declined means that the application has been declined because one or more requirements has not been met.
    On Hold means that application has been reviewed and been placed on hold for additional information which may include background check, Praxis scores, transcripts, etc.

    Looking up some of the coaches from Big Red and Indian Creek, I found this out:

    Big Red
    Kernahan, Jason - Declined
    Saccoccia, Reno - Declined
    Haney, Michael - Declined
    DiMarzio, August - Declined
    Pierro, Anthony - Issued
    Pierro, Joseph - Declined
    Saccoccia, Rinaldo - Declined
    Filtz, Danny - Declined
    Meyer, Joshua - Declined
    Lamantia, Robert - Declined
    Banks, Justin - Declined
    Blackburn, Michael - Declined

    Indian Creek
    Grinch, Sean - Issued
    Hammack, Joseph - Issued
    Kell, David - Issued
    Connor, Andrew - On Hold
    Voltz, Michael - Issued
    Lucas, George (Rob) - Issued
    Serafini, John - Issued

    This one stood out:
    Bahen, Gregg - Expired 6/30/2009 has not applied.

    I don't claim to be an expert on these permits. Maybe this is normal for the renewal process and it just takes some time to get updated in their systems.

    Brian can you shed some light on these permits??
  • BrianGossett
    Founder of OVATHLETICS.COM
    • Jun 2008
    • 9614

    #2
    I know that it's 100% required by the State of Ohio to be licensed - BEFORE the season starts. I had to take the class several weeks ago. I didn't have mine complete heading into the season, and the AD told me that I wasn't allowed on the field till it was done - that was all the motivation I needed to get it done.
    "Failure gave me Strength... Pain was my Motivation" - Michael Jordan


    "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle... victorious." - Vince Lombardi (1913-1970)

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    • icredskins
      Valued Contributor
      • Sep 2008
      • 1291

      #3
      I thought that might be the case. The AD must have dropped the ball at Big Red is all I can figure. Not sure why Coach Connor's is on hold, nor whether that means it's a violation of some sort. It appears that all of them expired on June 30, 2012 and that the renewals where submitted on August 20, 2012. Seems kind of last minute to me, especially with the season starting August 23rd!

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      • secretstud96
        TROY FETTY
        • Jul 2008
        • 7395

        #4
        Pupil Activity Validation Info



        Pupil Activity Permit Requirements

        The Pupil Activity Permit is required for a pupil activity program that involves athletics, routine or regular physical activity or activities with health and safety considerations.

        Requirements for a Pupil Activity Permit

        Completion of one of the following first aid/sports injury prevention trainings:

        Ohio Department of Education Approved Pupil Activity Program
        Medical License: (M.D., D.O, D.C., R.N., EMT, A.T.C.)
        Nationally approved programs: Approved Red Cross “Sport Safety Training,” or American Sport Education Program, or National Federation of State High School Association (NFHS First Aid for Coaches).
        College or university coursework completed within the past three years related to first aid training or athletic training.
        Pupil Activity Permit Application

        Additional Coaching Requirements to coach in the State of Ohio – verified by the hiring authority

        Successful completion of an approved cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) training course evidenced by a currently valid certificate;
        Completion of the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS) fundamentals of coaching class (one time only).
        Requirements for renewal of the Pupil Activity Permit

        Successful completion of an approved cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) training course evidenced by a currently valid certificate and verified by the hiring authority;
        Successful completion of one of the first-aid training options (see above).
        Pupil Activity Provider Packet
        This informational packet and application are for individuals or organizations who are seeking to become approved to offer first aid/first response programming for coaches pursuing a pupil activity permit.


        Pupil Activity program requirements governed by Ohio Administrative Code: 3301-27-01 Qualifications to Direct, Supervise or Coach a Pupil Activity Program

        Contact Information
        Office of Educator Licensure
        (614) 466-3593
        1(877) 644-6338 (toll free)
        Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys.
        Look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death!”
        – Sun Tzu, quotes from the Art of War

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        • secretstud96
          TROY FETTY
          • Jul 2008
          • 7395

          #5


          ODE outlines new Senate Bill 2 requirements for coaches, directors, supervisors

          Under the provisions of Senate Bill 2, effective June 9, 2004, the State Board will now issue a permit, instead of a validation, to direct, supervise or coach a pupil activity program. All non-licensed individuals and licensed individuals that direct, supervise or coach a physical activity program that involves athletics, routine/regular physical activity or health and safety considerations must hold this permit. The permit is valid for three years and is renewable.

          By changing the character of the validation to a permit, the legislature afforded the State Board the authority to address two important concerns. First, the bill allows a school district to employ a nonlicensed individual only if they have been granted a permit issued by the State Board. Second, the bill provides that the State Board or the Superintendent of Public Instruction, on behalf of the Board, may investigate the background of any applicant (licensed or nonlicensed) for the pupil activity program permit, in the same manner as an investigation of applicants for educator licenses and permits. This change means that for every new Pupil Activity Supervisor Permit applicant, a BCI/FBI background check must be submitted along with the application, fee and evidence of completion of successful completion of an approved first-aid program.

          Accordingly, the State Board may refuse to issue a permit to an applicant, may limit a permit it issues to an applicant or may suspend, revoke or limit a permit it has issued to any person, if the State Board determines that the applicant has done any of the following:

          (1) Engaged in an immoral act, incompetence, negligence or conduct that is unbecoming to the applicant's or person's position; or (2) Pled guilty to, has been found guilty by a jury or court or been convicted of any of the following: (a) A felony; (b) Unlawful sexual conduct with a minor, sexual imposition or sexual importuning; (c) An offense of violence; (d) Any of several proscribed theft offenses; (e) A drug abuse offense that is not a minor misdemeanor; and (f) A violation of a municipal ordinance that is substantively comparable to an offense listed in (a) through (e) above.

          Senate Bill 2 amended all of the relevant statutes to reflect the existence of the new permit. The State Board will promulgate a rule that will maintain the original substantive requirements necessary to obtain the validation and make Chapter 3301-73, Professional Conduct, applicable to the new permit.

          The application for this permit has been updated and is available on the Ohio Department of Education Web site by clicking here.

          From this point forward, please have your applicants complete this new form. If you have any additional questions please contact the Pupil Activity Consultant, Leigh Brenneman at Leigh.Brenneman@education.ohio.gov or 614-644-7701.
          Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys.
          Look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death!”
          – Sun Tzu, quotes from the Art of War

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          • valley82
            Season Ticket Holder
            • Jun 2011
            • 396

            #6
            I will say that most of the time a permit that is on Hold is because of payment not being processed yet. The main reason most permits are declined is usually because of paper work not being filled out correctly, the state is very strict when it comes to the application being filled out completely and correct, you leave one thing out or put something on the wrong line, they will decline it.

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            • Dats Right
              Valued Contributor
              • Oct 2008
              • 1514

              #7
              Originally posted by valley82 View Post
              I will say that most of the time a permit that is on Hold is because of payment not being processed yet. The main reason most permits are declined is usually because of paper work not being filled out correctly, the state is very strict when it comes to the application being filled out completely and correct, you leave one thing out or put something on the wrong line, they will decline it.
              Since I don't work for the ODE, I'm not too sure if your explanation is right or wrong, but I will say that if you click on one of the above's Application Status that has a hold, the ODE's reason for the hold is:

              "The application has been reviewed and additional information is needed
              which may include one or more of the following; background check results (BCI and/or FBI), school transcripts, or Praxis scores.
              A letter has been sent to the applicant’s home address with the details of the requirements. If you have questions about this application,
              please call the Office of Educator Licensure at 614-466-3593."

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              • Dats Right
                Valued Contributor
                • Oct 2008
                • 1514

                #8
                The above's status also states that the reason it is on hold is because of some document. Does anyone know how often a BCI/FBI check has to be performed? I thought it is once every 5 years for a licensed teacher, but I'm not too sure for those without a license but complete the requirements for a PAP.

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                • valley82
                  Season Ticket Holder
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 396

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dats Right View Post
                  Since I don't work for the ODE, I'm not too sure if your explanation is right or wrong, but I will say that if you click on one of the above's Application Status that has a hold, the ODE's reason for the hold is:

                  "The application has been reviewed and additional information is needed
                  which may include one or more of the following; background check results (BCI and/or FBI), school transcripts, or Praxis scores.
                  A letter has been sent to the applicant’s home address with the details of the requirements. If you have questions about this application,
                  please call the Office of Educator Licensure at 614-466-3593."
                  I may be wrong, but was told that a big percentage of the holds is from payment not being processed yet, I don't work in the field so I am not sure.

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                  • icredskins
                    Valued Contributor
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1291

                    #10
                    Originally posted by valley82 View Post
                    I may be wrong, but was told that a big percentage of the holds is from payment not being processed yet, I don't work in the field so I am not sure.
                    Looking at the different statuses, they have one that says "Payment Hold - The credential will be issued once sufficient funds are received". This is different from a On Hold status.

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                    • richard cranium
                      Suspended Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 306

                      #11
                      I see thread after thread being started as shots against Steubenville Big Red.
                      What is this about? Is this some kind of half witted investigation into Big Red wrong doings?

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                      • valley82
                        Season Ticket Holder
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 396

                        #12
                        Originally posted by icredskins View Post
                        Looking at the different statuses, they have one that says "Payment Hold - The credential will be issued once sufficient funds are received". This is different from a On Hold status.
                        I was going off of what I was told, really I don't give two ****s about it. I am sure there is a reason for all the hold and decline, but I don't think it is going to amount to anything devastating to either school.

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                        • icredskins
                          Valued Contributor
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1291

                          #13
                          Originally posted by valley82 View Post
                          I was going off of what I was told, really I don't give two ****s about it. I am sure there is a reason for all the hold and decline, but I don't think it is going to amount to anything devastating to either school.
                          If you don't give two ****s about it, then why did you bother posting on the thread, or for that matter, reading it?

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                          • icredskins
                            Valued Contributor
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1291

                            #14
                            Originally posted by richard cranium View Post
                            I see thread after thread being started as shots against Steubenville Big Red.
                            What is this about? Is this some kind of half witted investigation into Big Red wrong doings?
                            The only half wit I see is the one who keeps changing his screen name. At least this screen name really describe you!
                            Last edited by icredskins; 09-29-2012, 08:58 AM.

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                            • sonofsam
                              The Yoda of Ohio Valley Sports
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 7185

                              #15
                              Originally posted by valley82 View Post
                              I was going off of what I was told, really I don't give two ****s about it. I am sure there is a reason for all the hold and decline, but I don't think it is going to amount to anything devastating to either school.
                              But does it mean they cannot be on the sidelines?
                              www.redskinschop.com

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